Hope it's OK to jot down my notes about this issue here.
First of all, I appreciate the example in the OP a lot, because that is where I started as well - although it made me think shared
is some built-in Python module, until I found a complete example at [Tutor] Global Variables between Modules ??.
However, when I looked for "sharing variables between scripts" (or processes) - besides the case when a Python script needs to use variables defined in other Python source files (but not necessarily running processes) - I mostly stumbled upon two other use cases:
- A script forks itself into multiple child processes, which then run in parallel (possibly on multiple processors) on the same PC
- A script spawns multiple other child processes, which then run in parallel (possibly on multiple processors) on the same PC
As such, most hits regarding "shared variables" and "interprocess communication" (IPC) discuss cases like these two; however, in both of these cases one can observe a "parent", to which the "children" usually have a reference.
What I am interested in, however, is running multiple invocations of the same script, ran independently, and sharing data between those (as in Python: how to share an object instance across multiple invocations of a script), in a singleton/single instance mode. That kind of problem is not really addressed by the above two cases - instead, it essentially reduces to the example in OP (sharing variables across two scripts).
Now, when dealing with this problem in Perl, there is IPC::Shareable; which "allows you to tie a variable to shared memory", using "an integer number or 4 character string[1] that serves as a common identifier for data across process space". Thus, there are no temporary files, nor networking setups - which I find great for my use case; so I was looking for the same in Python.
However, as accepted answer by @Drewfer notes: "You're not going to be able to do what you want without storing the information somewhere external to the two instances of the interpreter"; or in other words: either you have to use a networking/socket setup - or you have to use temporary files (ergo, no shared RAM for "totally separate python sessions").
Now, even with these considerations, it is kinda difficult to find working examples (except for pickle
) - also in the docs for mmap and multiprocessing. I have managed to find some other examples - which also describe some pitfalls that the docs do not mention:
- Usage of
mmap
: working code in two different scripts at Sharing Python data between processes using mmap | schmichael's blog
- Demonstrates how both scripts change the shared value
- Note that here a temporary file is created as storage for saved data -
mmap
is just a special interface for accessing this temporary file
- Usage of
multiprocessing
: working code at:
Thanks to these examples, I came up with an example, which essentially does the same as the mmap
example, with approaches from the "synchronize a python dict" example - using BaseManager
(via manager.start()
through file path address) with shared list; both server and client read and write (pasted below). Note that:
multiprocessing
managers can be started either via manager.start()
or server.serve_forever()
serve_forever()
locks - start()
doesn't
- There is auto-logging facility in
multiprocessing
: it seems to work fine with start()
ed processes - but seems to ignore the ones that serve_forever()
- The address specification in
multiprocessing
can be IP (socket) or temporary file (possibly a pipe?) path; in multiprocessing
docs:
- Most examples use
multiprocessing.Manager()
- this is just a function (not class instantiation) which returns a SyncManager
, which is a special subclass of BaseManager
; and uses start()
- but not for IPC between independently ran scripts; here a file path is used
- Few other examples
serve_forever()
approach for IPC between independently ran scripts; here IP/socket address is used
- If an address is not specified, then an temp file path is used automatically (see 16.6.2.12. Logging for an example of how to see this)
In addition to all the pitfalls in the "synchronize a python dict" post, there are additional ones in case of a list. That post notes:
All manipulations of the dict must be done with methods and not dict assignments (syncdict["blast"] = 2 will fail miserably because of the way multiprocessing shares custom objects)
The workaround to dict['key']
getting and setting, is the use of the dict
public methods get
and update
. The problem is that there are no such public methods as alternative for list[index]
; thus, for a shared list, in addition we have to register __getitem__
and __setitem__
methods (which are private for list
) as exposed
, which means we also have to re-register all the public methods for list
as well :/
Well, I think those were the most critical things; these are the two scripts - they can just be ran in separate terminals (server first); note developed on Linux with Python 2.7:
a.py
(server):
import multiprocessing
import multiprocessing.managers
import logging
logger = multiprocessing.log_to_stderr()
logger.setLevel(logging.INFO)
class MyListManager(multiprocessing.managers.BaseManager):
pass
syncarr = []
def get_arr():
return syncarr
def main():
# print dir([]) # cannot do `exposed = dir([])`!! manually:
MyListManager.register("syncarr", get_arr, exposed=['__getitem__', '__setitem__', '__str__', 'append', 'count', 'extend', 'index', 'insert', 'pop', 'remove', 'reverse', 'sort'])
manager = MyListManager(address=('/tmp/mypipe'), authkey='')
manager.start()
# we don't use the same name as `syncarr` here (although we could);
# just to see that `syncarr_tmp` is actually <AutoProxy[syncarr] object>
# so we also have to expose `__str__` method in order to print its list values!
syncarr_tmp = manager.syncarr()
print("syncarr (master):", syncarr, "syncarr_tmp:", syncarr_tmp)
print("syncarr initial:", syncarr_tmp.__str__())
syncarr_tmp.append(140)
syncarr_tmp.append("hello")
print("syncarr set:", str(syncarr_tmp))
raw_input('Now run b.py and press ENTER')
print
print 'Changing [0]'
syncarr_tmp.__setitem__(0, 250)
print 'Changing [1]'
syncarr_tmp.__setitem__(1, "foo")
new_i = raw_input('Enter a new int value for [0]: ')
syncarr_tmp.__setitem__(0, int(new_i))
raw_input("Press any key (NOT Ctrl-C!) to kill server (but kill client first)".center(50, "-"))
manager.shutdown()
if __name__ == '__main__':
main()
b.py
(client)
import time
import multiprocessing
import multiprocessing.managers
import logging
logger = multiprocessing.log_to_stderr()
logger.setLevel(logging.INFO)
class MyListManager(multiprocessing.managers.BaseManager):
pass
MyListManager.register("syncarr")
def main():
manager = MyListManager(address=('/tmp/mypipe'), authkey='')
manager.connect()
syncarr = manager.syncarr()
print "arr = %s" % (dir(syncarr))
# note here we need not bother with __str__
# syncarr can be printed as a list without a problem:
print "List at start:", syncarr
print "Changing from client"
syncarr.append(30)
print "List now:", syncarr
o0 = None
o1 = None
while 1:
new_0 = syncarr.__getitem__(0) # syncarr[0]
new_1 = syncarr.__getitem__(1) # syncarr[1]
if o0 != new_0 or o1 != new_1:
print 'o0: %s => %s' % (str(o0), str(new_0))
print 'o1: %s => %s' % (str(o1), str(new_1))
print "List is:", syncarr
print 'Press Ctrl-C to exit'
o0 = new_0
o1 = new_1
time.sleep(1)
if __name__ == '__main__':
main()
As a final remark, on Linux /tmp/mypipe
is created - but is 0 bytes, and has attributes srwxr-xr-x
(for a socket); I guess this makes me happy, as I neither have to worry about network ports, nor about temporary files as such :)
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